Comments on: Lyricism and Capitalism http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/ from the makers of Ill Doctrine Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:32:34 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: jay smooth http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3553 jay smooth Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:59:34 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3553 1) I'd disagree about where 50 falls on the skills/no skills playing field. Ja and Nelly were specifically the ones I was referring to when I mentioned people who skate by for a while but don't sustain it. 2) Master P and P Diddy did not, for the most part, make their money as rappers. The bulk of their fortune is money they made off of business acumen and from <i>.other people's</i> rapping. 1) I’d disagree about where 50 falls on the skills/no skills playing field. Ja and Nelly were specifically the ones I was referring to when I mentioned people who skate by for a while but don’t sustain it.

2) Master P and P Diddy did not, for the most part, make their money as rappers. The bulk of their fortune is money they made off of business acumen and from .other people’s rapping.

]]> By: Manuel http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3550 Manuel Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:34:11 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3550 I think the statistic that Jay Smooth present about how for the last 10 years the top selling rapper has been lyrical is a little misleading. 1. I don't know how his list works, but I'm surprised that 50 Cent, Ja Rule and Nelly weren't on it. 2. A more relevant stat would have been who has sold the most albums over the last ten years, or better yet who made the most money (Flame's point in the first place). The richest rappers by far are Master P, Jay Z, 50, and Diddy--only one is lyrical. If you looked at all of the top earners of the decade I think you'd find some lyrical titans (Jay Z, Eminem, Kanye, Outcast), some so so lyricists who write catchy songs (Luda, 50, Snoop) and some non-lyrical rappers (Nelly, Ja Rule, Diddy, Master P). Buuut, I think lyrics do extend the longevity of a rapper's career. Lyrical rappers often stay popular longer (WuTang, Nas, De La), and even after they're not hot anymore, they can tour forever because they have a loyal fan base (Slick Rick, Rakim, Hieroglyphics). Non-lyrical rappers just disappear (Ja, Master P, Camron). Manuel I think the statistic that Jay Smooth present about how for the last 10 years the top selling rapper has been lyrical is a little misleading. 1. I don’t know how his list works, but I’m surprised that 50 Cent, Ja Rule and Nelly weren’t on it. 2. A more relevant stat would have been who has sold the most albums over the last ten years, or better yet who made the most money (Flame’s point in the first place). The richest rappers by far are Master P, Jay Z, 50, and Diddy–only one is lyrical. If you looked at all of the top earners of the decade I think you’d find some lyrical titans (Jay Z, Eminem, Kanye, Outcast), some so so lyricists who write catchy songs (Luda, 50, Snoop) and some non-lyrical rappers (Nelly, Ja Rule, Diddy, Master P).

Buuut, I think lyrics do extend the longevity of a rapper’s career. Lyrical rappers often stay popular longer (WuTang, Nas, De La), and even after they’re not hot anymore, they can tour forever because they have a loyal fan base (Slick Rick, Rakim, Hieroglyphics). Non-lyrical rappers just disappear (Ja, Master P, Camron).

Manuel

]]> By: Dalia Vercher http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3532 Dalia Vercher Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:56:28 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3532 Hi, I found this blog post while was searching for shopping related information on google and found it very good article, thanks for sharing, best regards and cheers! Hi, I found this blog post while was searching for shopping related information on google and found it very good article, thanks for sharing, best regards and cheers!

]]> By: Wilson http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3508 Wilson Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:20:24 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3508 That is pretty interesting. It provided me a few ideas and I'll be posting them on my web site shortly. I'm bookmarking your blog and I'll be back. Thanks again! That is pretty interesting. It provided me a few ideas and I’ll be posting them on my web site shortly. I’m bookmarking your blog and I’ll be back. Thanks again!

]]> By: crystal http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3487 crystal Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:08:40 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3487 This album made it to the billboard top albums of 2009, definitely worth mentioning. This album made it to the billboard top albums of 2009, definitely worth mentioning.

]]> By: alice http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3469 alice Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:42:21 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3469 p.s. Like the new style of the freeze frame thumbnail whatever you call it thing. Definite improvement-way smoother looking. p.s. Like the new style of the freeze frame thumbnail whatever you call it thing. Definite improvement-way smoother looking.

]]> By: alice http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3468 alice Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:39:25 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3468 Wait. Are you trying to say that "Gucci bandana Gucci bandana whee!" isn't lyrical? Wait. Are you trying to say that “Gucci bandana Gucci bandana whee!” isn’t lyrical?

]]> By: NOVA http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3463 NOVA Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:43:06 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3463 .....you ain't neva' lied Lavar! …..you ain’t neva’ lied Lavar!

]]> By: Sherrie Mccloudy http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3462 Sherrie Mccloudy Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:25:57 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3462 I quite simply liked this site post, it helped a lot! Thanks! I quite simply liked this site post, it helped a lot! Thanks!

]]> By: lavarrock http://nildoctrine.com/nil/lyricism-and-capitalism/comment-page-1/#comment-3458 lavarrock Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:55:32 +0000 http://nildoctrine.com/nil/?p=353#comment-3458 Yo Nova, I guess its just what Rass Kass said "radio hit, heads criticize it/underground classic, nobody buys it" Yo Nova, I guess its just what Rass Kass said “radio hit, heads criticize it/underground classic, nobody buys it”

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